Bernie Corrigan Chat Transcript and Notes

  • Friendly resident of 35 years
    • “I love it.  I don’t have to live here.”
  • Science Friday is one of his favorite programs
    • “The God people in the form of the Republican Party wanna shut N.P.R. off if they possibly can.”
  • Owns / runs Corrigan and Associates from home since 1976
    • Business consulting and custom software development
      • “I had employees for a while, but then business tailed off.  I had three and a half employees at the largest point … What we do is terribly intellectual and requires an awful lot of brainpower to do it.  If somebody comes to me with a problem in their business where they need a database-type solution, I start with an analysis and then proceed to design a solution which is computer-based, if that’s called for, and we run extremely user-friendly software.  I have a couple of people who work with me on a contract basis from time to time
        • Computer software for P.C.s
          • “What kind of programs?”
            • “Oh God, uh, alright – I’ve written the international bullhead whaling morphological characteristics database, I’ve written the system that the Inuit use to track all the flora and fauna they take off the north slope of Alaska, which is an area about the size of Oregon, I wrote the laboratory systems for the city of St. Louis, I’ve written a number of logging and labor tracking systems for Weyerhaeuser, I’ve done some work with advertising companies – in other words, I’m a generalist.  I’m also a bit of a scientist.”

“You said you taught up at U of O?”

“Yes, I taught in the Psychology department as a Graduate student in the 1970s.”

“Would you recommend that to future students of today?  Would you recommend that field?”

“What, you mean Psychology?”

“Yeah”

Uhhhh, I don’t know.

“Did you enjoy it?”

“I enjoyed it, I’ve enjoyed my life thus far.  The problem that I see right now is that students are getting out of college, even state colleges, with overwhelming amounts of debt, and I find this terribly frightening for the future of our society.  When I finished my work at the PhD level, I didn’t owe a nickel to anyone, and I owned this house! And I owned a boat, and I owned a pickup and a car and I have a loan out on the car, but everything else I own free and clear.  And I did that with money I made as a Graduate Assistant, as a Research Assistant, and as a Consultant.  Okay today, the cost of tuition is so high that that’s virtually impossible, and I think that this is a tragedy in our society.

Ronald Reagan and his followers designed this idea, and they have unfortunately managed to put it into effect.  Right now we’re at the tail end of Reaganomics, we’re in the midst of Cancer Capitalism, and I fear for your generation, and that of my son and my grandson, it really worries me.”

“Cancer Capitalism?  Is that, like, literally medical, or is it -”

“In the sense of it’s eating itself. It’s eating the host.  It’s killing the host.  The United States is the host, and capitalism has now stripped us of 20 million jobs … the average income of the middle class has been going down steadily since Ronald Reagan was in office, except for a little blip during the Clinton years, and we just have terrible problems with it.  And as you can see, we’re very concerned here in the neighborhood, looking at the number of foreclosures going down and people being evicted from their homes, who have nowhere to go, as to how long it might be before city parks are turned into homeless camps.

You know, Obama’s turned out to be a gutless leader, and he’s afraid to fight about anything – he gives away the farm in negotiations before they even start negotiating … and no wonder they lost the election. [A hearty, amused, ironic laugh].  But I thought you came here to ask me questions about the neighborhood – you’re getting my political views! [another of the same laugh].”

“It’s actually for, like, a profile, so it, you know, it can be –”

“Oh, okay.  Well, I’ve been an activist since – God, since I was in high school, and I worked in the Obama campaign as a volunteer and donated money to it, so I am not a happy camper.  Let’s see, what would you like to know about? – Maybe you’d better ask me some questions.”

“Let’s go with this one – do you feel that there’s a lot to be done for Friendly Neighborhood’s progress?”

“Yeah, mostly we’re trying to make the neighborhood more livable, and right now that means keeping our schools open and making it safe to get from here to there by foot – which it currently is not.”

“Sidewalk shortage?”

“Yeah, Eugene has a terrible history of not requiring sidewalks through the neighborhoods, and, like, you cannot walk from here to Willamette Street on a sidewalk – you’re going to have to walk out in the street, and in one case, on a very busy and dangerous narrow street, 23rd, to get from here to – if you wanna walk from here over to Willamette, directly east of here … and we’ve been working on that.  We work as closely as we can with the schools to help them stay open.  We’ve basically – okay, we’ve opened a community garden up at 22nd and Van Buren, we took over an abandoned city street and converted it into garden space.  Uhhh, I’m trying to think of our other projects – here, let me give you a copy of our newsletter.”

[Gets up, retrieves a copy of the newsletter from the pile of papers on the table behind me]

“We try to inform people in the neighborhood about various things going on, that they need to know about, and, unfortunately for our last general meeting, that was the night the Ducks played UCLA, so [A very lively laugh] we had about 20 people there, including members of the Board, so it was not well attended.  Normally we have 50 to 100 people, which for neighborhoods in Eugene is pretty good.  I don’t want to give you two, I want to give another one to somebody [referring to the extra newsletter copy he’d given me].  The main problem we’ve got right now is fast traffic going through various areas of the neighborhood, and the deterioration of the streets.  For the deterioration of the streets, it’s kind of beneficial in that it slows the traffic down, to some extent.  Did you notice the traffic circle out here?  That is part of the major traffic-calming project that we put in about six years ago.  We applied for a grant and got it; the speed bumps on Van Buren, the traffic circles on Jackson, and the speed bumps on – not Van Buren, I mean Adams – Adams, Tyler, Taylor, and then Polk we have the chicanes, which are no longer operational, and all the speed bumps and traffic circles throughout the neighborhood that you see over on this side of College Hill, we did that, in – I think it was – 2003 or 2004, or maybe even 2005.

There’s a real funny story behind that – it was ready to be built in the fall of 2001, and after 9/11 the local fire department said, basically, “Our brothers died in New York, therefore you can’t have traffic-calming out in the Friendly neighborhood neighbors area,” and so it took us another two or three years to get them calmed down and put the project in place as designed.

[Talking to his dog] You got a flea, D.V.?

We’re at the point where various flea potions no longer work well at the desired kill rate, so the guys who are most resistant live.

In general terms, our Board has been together for a long time.  The newest members on our Board have been there three years.  I’ve been on the Board for – this is my 11th year, and I came in because of traffic calming.  We had two fatal accidents here on Jackson – we had people going through here in the mid-‘60s – and up to ‘70s – that’s what we clocked with police radar.  We have a police radar unit we were using.  And we knew they were going fast, but we had no idea they were going that fast.  [Laugh] And the worst was 76 over here on – just two blocks west of Tyler, going north and south there between 28th and 24th.  And my God – if a little kid or pet comes out – we were having pets killed right and left here on Jackson, and a little kid on his bicycle got hit – and people up on the hill were using this as their freeway, and so it was kind of interesting – when the traffic calming project was about to go in, when it was announced that it was going in, the various – actually, it was immediately after it went in – all three T.V. stations that have news departments came out and interviewed us, and all of the reports on T.V. were extremely negative about the traffic calming, about the idea that the money should have been used to fill potholes, and that the traffic calming really wasn’t necessary, and all of the parts of our interviews, which was about the dangers and dead pets and kids getting nearly killed – they left all of that out, they edited all of that out.  It was incredibly biased stuff.  We decided that Channel 13 was the worst, so we decided that since they were up on Blanton Heights that they must have been doing a lot of speeding through the neighborhood to get up to Blanton Heights.

[Notices D.B. putting his head in my lap, wagging his tail, begging me to pet him]

D.B … D.B. likes you, lucky you.”

“What kind of dog is he … she?”

He is a Dobie Lab with a touch of Border Collie. He is very, very smart.”

[Talks to E.V.]

“Aren’t you?  Yes.  You wanna talk to Jake? Okay, Jake’s scratching your butt.”

“I’ve always had dogs, so this is a part of life for me.”

“Yeah, he’s 12 ½ years old, and hopefully he’ll live to be 16 or 17.  His predecessor lived to be a bit over 17, and for some reason he knows all of his predecessor’s friends, so I’m wondering about it on a scientific basis.”

[Laughs] “Anyway, Friendly Area Neighbors is one of the most active – one of the major things we did was we wanted to make the EWEB Reservoir up on top of College Hill – have you been there?

“I don’t think –”

“Up here – it’s a big, several-acre flat place – it’s been open to the public, O.K., and we wanted to make it open to disabled people, because there were just steps to get up there.  And so we proposed putting in a ramp, and we were told that if we insisted on that that they would fence it off, in the name of security, and we actually got an internal memo that said that, and so after about a four-year struggle, we got the commissioners to vote to keep it open and to let us put in the ramp, and we put a ramp in.  And so now it has become, essentially, a de facto city park, and the city had been trying to accomplish this for some time, and EWEB told them this, and we managed to get it through, and we were congratulated on this by Johnny Medlin, City Parks Department.  We also have completely rebuilt Friendly Park at 27th and Monroe – it was a mud hole with a merry-go-round and an old slide, and if you go by there now there are kids usually playing there every day of the year now, whereas before it was really only open – unless they had waders on – six months out of the year.  We also built the kiosk on the corner of 27th and Monroe, in fact I put three days in on that kiosk and the little plaza underneath it, which is – it’s an artist paver design.  We – when we built the ramp, there was – oh, I don’t know – probably about 1,000 person hours put in on building the ramp up to the reservoir.  Do you have a car with you?”

“I actually came on bike.”

“Okay, you don’t wanna ride up there.” [Laughs] “I could take you up for a little ride-around, if you’d wanna take pictures of those for your … thing.

“Sure!”

“Okay.  E.V., you’re gonna have to stay here – Jake and I are gonna jump in the car and go look at some things real quick, okay?

[E.V. jumps up in excitement]

No, you’re staying here.

END OF PART 1

[In the car on the way to sightseeing]

“What was that thing you said a second ago, before I turned it on, sorry?”

“You’d never think that rehabbing a city park would be controversial.”

That’s right.”

“I take care of feral cats in the neighborhood.” [Says this as four black cats scatter in driveway, says something else that is muffled by opening car door as Bernie goes back inside to get his digital camera]

“There’s a cat over here by your bike, the black-and-white one, the smartest cat I’ve ever had.  He was a feral, and he worked his way into the house and convinced D.V. he ought to live there.  He’s a nearly perfect cat – he learned how to use a litter box right away.  Anyway, yeah, we have a real problem in the neighborhood with feral cats who have been abandoned when trap setters release ‘em … but that’s not neighborhood activity, that’s just [unintelligible] … And you’ll have to leave your e-mail address for me.”

“What happened with this park is we did two years of planning, okay, it’s a mud hole, and – you’ll see when we get there – that people’s yards adjoin it, and so they kind of thought it was their little park – they all signed off on what we wanted to do, and then the city came in and did the business part of the rehab, and poured in a concrete berm to keep wood chips in place, so that when the kids fell they had a nice, soft place to land.  And when that concrete got poured, the neighbors went nuts, and they wanted – and we signed a contract with the city to do the work! And they wanted us to just ‘tear the contract up,’ like whoa!, and it was on a neighborhood matching grant thing, and the whole neighborhood matching grant process hinged on this, so it was being watched very carefully by the City Council.  And they started circulating petitions to Save Friendly Park! – well, basically they wanted to save it from this kiosk, and some adult exercise equipment, because by then that stuff was in there.”

“I’ve actually been to this very park.”

“Okay, I’ll take a quick picture of the kiosk for you.”

“Is the kiosk that … barrier?

“No, the kiosk is something like this, okay, with the little roof on it right here.”

[Bernie gets out to photograph the kiosk, returns]

“You know, we had a big come-to-Jesus meeting right here with 30 neighbors and me and Carlos Barrera and the other Friendly Area Neighbors Co-chairs about two years ago right now – or three years ago right now, and, y’know, we were accused of being liars and all sorts of things and, y’know, “Oh, you didn’t inform us!” and I said, “The only way we could’ve given you people more information is if we’d kidnapped you at gunpoint and made you sit through a meeting!” But they all signed off on it.  It’s interesting how group denial can occur.” [Laughs]

“What was the name of that park that we just saw?”

Friendly Park.”

“Friendly Park, of course.”

“Yeah.  It’s not on Friendly Street, though.  The neighborhood is named after – do you know who Fred Friendly was?”

“I’ve actually seen a website with the history, but … I’ve heard of him.  Wasn’t he the mayor of Eugene?”

“Uhh, yes, at one time, but also – uh, no, Fred Friendly was his grandson, who was the president of CBS News, and was a newscaster.”

[Notices a pedestrian using the street to get around]

“Aaah, I love it, there’s a sidewalk and he’s walking in the street.  That sidewalk ends, like I said.”

[Highlights the neighborhood’s automobile trends]

“This is also kind of the Volkswagen capital – Volkswagen van capital of the United States, right in here.  Eugene has more Volkswagen vans per capita than Wolfsburg, which is where they make them.”

“Okay, we’ll go up to the reservoir now, since you’re not familiar with it.”

“Cool!”

“Yeah, there was a big fight over that – we won it.  It’s kind of funny – when they had the big meeting down at the park and Bonny Bettman, who was our City Councilor at the time, was explaining to these people – they kept saying “Well, we don’t WANT more people using our park!” and she said It ISN’T your park, you don’t OWN it!” [Laughs] “EVERYBODY in the city owns the park.”

“In Los Angeles, when I’m down there, I might see three Volkswagen vans in two weeks. Here you can drive around the block and see three Volkswagen vans.”

“Okay, this is College Hill.”

“College Hill.”

“Take a guess as to what year the college on College Hill closed.  We’ll go around and then come back.  The college is down here a little ways.  And you’re not gonna believe this.”

“Wasn’t it Columbia College?”

“Yeah.”

“19  – …”

“Wrong century, guy.”

“Really …”

“Yeah.  Earlier.”

“18 – … 76.”

“Too late!

[Frazzled] “Oh my –”

“This is the side of the reservoir here.  This is a WPA project, something Obama needs to resurrect.  He’s reading books on Abraham Lincoln – he should’ve been reading books about Franklin Delano Roosevelt … We’ll go down Lawrence and come back on the other side.  Anyway, that’s a huge area there.” [Referring to the flat, open concrete area atop the reservoir, which overlooks much of Eugene] “It’s all paved, and that’s just – it’s a really nice place to set up.  Probably the priciest area of older homes in Eugene.  The projects up here go on for staggering amounts of money – because of the view, mostly – but anyway it [Columbia College] closed – well, okay, what happened was it was doing okay, and then the Baptists burned it down because it was an institution that was sort of opposed to slavery, and the Baptists were very pro-slavery.  And I wrote a piece on it some years ago, and so they rebuilt it and then it was burnt down again! And then they started to rebuild it, and then that just sort of petered out because the Civil War was taking off, and I think it actually formally closed about 1858.”

“Wow.”

“Okay, you can see the surface here, here’s the [‘plaque’?] right here, we did all of this, okay, we put in the cement, we put in the curbside, the railings, which comes out along past here.”

“That is impressive.”

“Yeah.  Well, the Mayor was here, this is a big deal.  Let’s hop out.”

“Okay, uhh, the surface – what they claim their worry was – was that we don’t care about the damaged joints and a few germs would trickle down into the reservoir and kill everybody who drinks, despite the fact that they maintained the chlorine levels in the water that would cause the eColi in the water to shrivel up and die.  Now, these things here, I was – I suggested a design for these – uh, this is where the joint is, okay, so this is a joint protector [gestures to the slanted ‘roof’ that covers seams in the pavement], and this one is somewhat beyond the design I suggested.  But this coating on here is to preserve the cement, and it’s also an armor coat for the cement.  This is now a de facto city park, and they were gonna fence it with a fence like that all the way around and not let anybody onto the surface.”

“Were people, like, camping out here? Squatting, if you will?”

“No, no, not at all.  No, it was used for people to come up here and run – there were some drinking parties up here – we used to find broken glass here, we probably still do – I don’t see any today.  In fact, there’s been less of that kind of behavior up here since all this surface got rehabbed.  And EWEB became a good neighbor, and turned – basically, made it into a usable place for all the citizens of Eugene.  When I moved here, these trees weren’t up there like that, so people used to come up here in droves to watch the fireworks that were going off over at Autzen Stadium and Alton Baker Park, and then also the Civic Stadium back when the Ems would do their 4th of July fireworks.  So anyway, we were gonna preserve this – it was gonna be fenced like that there, and, uhh – we uhh – did whatever we did, and caused the commissioners to vote to have this happen, right here.  And the vote was five-zip, over staff [‘objections?’].  Although I don’t know if the staff is still [‘objective’?].  And one of the results of this is we’ve got a wonderful person, Jeannine Parisi, as their sort of ‘community communicator’ person.  She’s not a real P.R. person, she – I don’t know what you’d really call her, but she goes out and gets it and stays connected with various organizations in the community to – so that fights like this don’t happen in the future.  But this is a result.  We took a lot of dirt out of here, too, so I cleaned dirt out with my own two hands – I put over 50 hours into this project.  Greg Giesy, G-I-E-S-Y, is the guy who most favored it because he’s a landscaping contractor, paving contractor, paver contractor, and he did all of the paver work.  Pavers are a lot harder than they look.  Now someone needs to put a roof on it. [Laughs]”

“So how does the water – like, I assume that the water’s down in there, stored, held up – how does it work?”

“Okay, there’s some big pipes, and this just feeds into the city system – this is one of the things that maintains pressure.  Now, did you see the water tower?  That’s one of our – here, we’ll go back, and I’ll back up.

[Looks across the street, notices several men working on a roof]

And here we have an unmarked roofing crew.  Oh, it’s McKenzie Roofing … at least it doesn’t look like it’s all illegal aliens.  They’ve got a bunch of people working on it … I had a roofing business for a while.  Roofing and construction, and the Reagan Revo – the Reagan counterrevolution did it in.”

“Where was that?”

“Here in Eugene.  I left academia in … 1978.

Okay, here is the water tower.  Okay, and that’s what does the water pressure for this area.  And then it also helps regulate the pressure that goes all the way around College Hill – and actually a whole lot of west Eugene – see, there are water reservoirs like this on top of hills all over the place, you just don’t see them – they’re kind of, like, invisible. This is one of the more scenic areas out here.”

“How do you feel about – I’ll just say – the allowance of illegal immigrants?  Are you – do you have a stance on that at all?”

“Yeah, I certainly do.  I taught The Psychology of Population Control at the University of Oregon.  I would argue that – hang on, let me concentrate on driving for a second.”

“That’d be good.”

“This is a ski jump!”

“It IS!”

“Weeeeee!”

“I’m afraid to ride down it!”

I wouldn’t ride down this on a bike.  I mean, my God, this is a 12-12 slope right here.  If I were on a roof I’d want a safety rope with this.  I’ve forgotten how steep it is – I’ve walked up it several times.”

“26th and Jefferson …”

[Laughs] “Yeah, I’d remember that.  Yeah, a great place to skateboard!”

“I know what to avoid … If I have some enemies, I can push ‘em downhill!”

“Illegal immigration – okay, back during the Reagan administration, Ronald Reagan was trying to bust the immigrants any way he could.  We had about 30% of the labor in the United States (construction, factory, government) belonged – was unionized when Reagan came into office.  We had about three million illegal immigrants in the country, and basically the same problem we’ve got here today – people had been for a long time and fit into the communities and worked hard, some had children here … and so Reagan got a bill through Congress to give these people amnesty – they could apply and become citizens, get green cards, whatever, okay … and the promise was made by the Reagan administration that they would seal the border, and allow no one – and make it very difficult for people to come in, but all this was was a ruse, because once these people became legal, then they were in the labor market legitimately, but a lot of them –

Oooo, I was expecting a little camera to get dropped off [as we arrived back at Bernie’s driveway].  Oh well, we’ll see.  I’ve got a computer coming on Tuesday. Okay, that’s good, I know that.  Oh, he left it, we’re fine!

Okay, so what happened was that Reagan – the Reagan administration made this promise to Congress that they would seal the borders, and then they didn’t.  And the idea – they basically opened the borders because they wanted as much low-wage labor as possible into the country to kill the unions.  Reagan, for some reason, hated unions.  The Reagan administration – the Republicans hate unions because, as far as I can tell, the Republicans wanna turn the country into an oligarchy ruled by a few thousand very wealthy families.  And everybody else was going to be a peon, and we were going to have a very small middle class – I mean, that’s where we’re headed right now.  And people such as yourself and myself will not ever have enough income to become kinda independent, we’ll always be dependent on somebody in a kind of a feudal system, an economic feudalism.  And that’s where they wanna go – they have written all of this down, but apparently nobody can read – the Democrats don’t read it or don’t believe what they read, because they ought to be shouting from the rooftops, and they’re not! But yet it’s happening.  I mean, I look at you kids gettin’ out of school with, y’know, out of the University of Oregon with a $40,000 debt, for Christ’s sake, and I go ‘My God! This is insanity!’ Y’know, ‘what’s happened to the country?’ Used to be you could work, like, summer, and make enough money to pay your tuition or your expenses.  Tuition used to be free in California, but anyway – back to the Illegals problem – the idea is that they wanted to flood the country with illegal immigrants – you notice that the Bush administration talked a lot and did nothing to seal the border.  Obama has done far more to seal the border and been blamed for not doing so.  They’ve also deported more illegal immigrants under the Obama administration already than, I believe, than were deported during the entire Bush era.

So how do I feel about it …?  I feel that people who have been here for a while – I like the idea of the Dream Act.  But if we pass the Dream Act, we have to, basically, seal off the illegal immigration – there are legal paths for getting into the country they can be takin’, and a lot of this illegal – err, legal immigration, such as the H-1B program, is bringing in technical workers at extremely low wages to keep the wages, in my industry particularly, depressed, because you can get a PhD in I.T. into this country for $36,000 a year and they’re happy to be here.  And if you’ve gotta hire a regular American trained at a regular American university, you’re lookin’ at $70 – $80,000 a year right out of the gate.  And I lost a major contract to some H-1B people, and the people who do it, who certify H-1Bs (let me see what time it is, here – I’ve gotta go in about five minutes, and I need to get your e-mail address) the people who certify the H-1B’s certify, under penalty of perjury, that they cannot find anybody in the United States to do the job.  And they regularly commit perjury, and there’s no prosecution.

[Enters his house, speaks to D.V. for a moment in a joyful tone about a kitchen cabinet]

Did you open this up?  What are you doing?  Why did you open the cabinets? You wanna go back outside?  Okay, go back out – why don’t you go back outside, ‘cause I’ve gotta leave right away.  You go back outside – you’ve got two big dog biscuits and a bowl of water.  Out.

[Then back to me again, returning to the middle of the kitchen]

I’m trying to downsize right now, and it’s an incredible amount of work, going through all of your shit and getting rid of what you don’t need, and I don’t need an awful lot of this.  [Laughs]  I used to pride myself on that I could fit everything that I owned into my car and just move anywhere at any time, but then I started buying books, and I’ve got thousands of books, most of which are out there in boxes in the storage.

So, Jake, is there anything else you’d like to know in the four minutes we have remaining? You can always call me up later.”

“You’ve said a lot of good stuff about a lot of good things.”

“Well, we all have to – we are citizens of our community, and we have to take responsibility in making it livable and keeping it livable, and we have lost this ethic to some extent here in the United States.  I grew up in a small town in Nebraska, and there everybody kinda looked out for everybody else, and we have a neighborhood here where this is true.  And I’ve helped build it and make it that way.”

[Bernie asks me for my e-mail address and other specific information in closing]

“It’s kind of funny, I was thinking about not staying on the Board, or just dropping down from Co-Chair, and half the Board threatened to resign if I didn’t remain as Co-Chair, and I thought that was funnier than Hell.  It’s very difficult to get people to be on Boards such as ours, so what we do is we find projects that people want to do, and we usually make them in charge of the projects they want to do, and we support them any way that we can.  And we’ve got – and this has worked very well.  We’ve got an awful lot of things done.

Have you been up to see the – I don’t have time to run you up there, I could’ve taken you up to see the garden at 22nd and Van Buren – where do you live?”

“I’m actually on 18th and Alder.”

“Okay.  Well, you can just go over here one block and go – ‘cause you’re gonna go that way since it’s the flattest way – go up here and at 22nd or 21st you’re going to see that there’s a garden area, and we helped get that converted from a vacant city street into a garden area.”

“Is there also a little kiosk right in front of it, like at Friendly Garden? I’ve seen that, actually.  It’s nice.”

“Yeah.  And none of that stuff was here, y’know, like, 10 years ago.  We’ve really done a lot – now, the trees you see along the streets here, we planted, literally.  We planted ‘em like this [gestures with two hands, as if putting a young tree into the ground], and the idea is just to keep the neighborhood as livable as possible.

And we’re really lookin’ at where we’re gonna be at economically – y’know, the Stimulus is over, and all these people are saying “Well, the Stimulus didn’t do anything,” and the Stimulus did rather a lot! And so we’re gonna have County and State and the School District layin’ people off because all the money’s going away.  The University of Oregon, for example, got a lot of Stimulus money – I think it was mainly for research grants, but all those bucks are very important, and – I know a little bit about Economics.  And you’re probably unaware of it, but Danny Kahneman won the Nobel Prize in Economics in 2002 and he was at Oregon Research Institute for several years in the ‘80s, and I worked with him for a few years.  And, uhh – but that has nothing to do with Friendly Neighborhood, although I did live here at the time. [Laughs] And, uhh, but yeah, I mean the economics of the time, they were insane – I mean just completely insane! Give it all to the rich – oh, good, but what’s everybody else going to do when things start falling apart?  Well, that’s, you know, bloody capitalism for the poor, and socialism for the rich.  It’s beyond belief.  [Laughs]  But I’m serious.

What are you majoring in?

“Newspaper and Editorial.”

“God, it’s a bad time to be doing that!

“I have a minor in Business.”

“Good, good … yeah, Business is so simple, I don’t know why they have school for it, but I grew up in an Accounting office.”

About jakemcneal

My name is Jake McNeal and I am from Portland, Oregon. I am a senior at the University of Oregon, majoring in news-editorial and magazine journalism. I am a business minor as well. I would love to be a sports reporter covering football, basketball, baseball and soccer.
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